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Registered: ‎05-28-2012

PSA: Many of the "QHD+ 3200x1800" and "4K 3840x2160" laptop displays are fake!

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Loads of laptops have been flowing in advertising resolutions like 3200x1800 (QHD+) and 3840x2160 (4K), seemingly ushering in the new era of Retina-class displays. Sounds nice, right? However, it is important to know that, in many of these cases, these advertised resolutions are not a complete truth.

 

Many of these displays use the RG/BW Pentile matrix, a deceptive trick that enables manufacturers to produce a display that can be advertised as a particular resolution, {removed per forum guidelines}. The specs page says 3840x2160, your display control panel says 3840x2160, but the actual display doesn't enough dots to properly display that resolution, so it has to be downsampled. These displays tend to produce fuzzy text, and they lose detail on anything zoomed less than 200%.

 

 

Displays like this are not competitive with Macbook Retina displays or other high-resolution displays, and have lower actual pixel density than the 2560x1440 (QHD) and 2880x1620 (3K) resolution displays that are available in other laptops, which produce much better quality pictures and don't even require as much graphics processing power to handle. Heck, they're worse quality than some of the normal 1080p IPS displays they're supposed to be an upgrade from, when it comes to color and contrast.

 

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Laptops known to use falsified high-resolution displays:

- Dell Inspiron 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- ASUS Zenbook UX303UB, UX305CA, UX305UA, etc. series 13.3" QHD+(3200x1800)
- ASUS Zenbook Pro UX501JW, UX501VW, UX510UW, Q534UX 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- Most or all Samsung Notebook QHD(2560x1440), QHD+(3200x1800), 4K(3840x2160)
- HP Spectre 13t 13.3" QHD+(3200x1800)
- HP Pavilion, Omen, Envy, Spectre 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- Clevo models w/ the G-Sync Samsung 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- [New] MSI G-Series 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- [Old] Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro, Yoga 3 Pro, Yoga 900 13.3" QHD+(3200x1800)
- [Old] Lenovo IdeaPad Y50 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- Toshiba Radius 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)

 

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Laptops known to use real high-resolution displays:

- Dell XPS 13 13.3" QHD+(3200x1800)
- Dell XPS 15 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- [New] Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 910 14" 4K(3840x2160)
- [New] Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 710 15.6" 4K(3840x2160) Best Buy model
- [New] Lenovo IdeaPad Y700 15.6" 4K (3840x2160)
- HP Spectre x360 13.3" QHD(2560x1440) and most other 13.3"/14" 2560x1440 too
- [Old] MSI G-Series 15.6" 3K(2880x1620) - literally a better screen than the false-4K they use now
- Toshiba Radius 12.5" 4K(3840x2160)
- Clevo models w/ the Sharp IGZO 15.6" 4K(3840x2160)
- All Alienware and Razer Blade models advertising high resolutions
- All Gigabyte/Aorus models advertising high resolutions
- All business-class Lenovo, Dell, HP models advertising high resolutions
- All 17.3" QHD(2560x1440) and 4K(3840x2160) (incl. HP, Dell Inspirons, ASUS, Clevo)
- Detachables: Lenovo Miix, All Microsoft SurfaceBooks, most if not all non-Samsung-branded models, and certain specific Samsung models.
- Macbooks w/ Retina

 

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Have a laptop you suspect to use a false high-resolution display, or have access to one you'd like to test? Use this image. Temporarily set your scaling in display settings to 100%, then load up the image in a Web browser and make sure its zoom is also set to 100%. If the display is truly the resolution it advertises, you will not see fuzzing {removed per forum guidelines}.

 

General recommendations: Be aware of this issue. Seek out "lower-resolution" true-RGB displays over RG/BW displays that claim higher resolutions. Also pay mind to the display in general, because differences between displays tend to have a lot more of an effect on normal use than the differences between most other components. It is recommended to avoid 1366x768 resolution in screen sizes 13.3"+ if your budget is over $350 where 1920x1080 starts to become an option, as 1366x768 severely limits the number of windows that can fit onscreen at once, and tends to deliver a coarser picture.

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Re: PSA: Many of the "QHD+ 3200x1800" and "4K 3840x2160" laptop displays are fak

Good information.

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Registered: ‎05-28-2012

Re: PSA: Many of the "QHD+ 3200x1800" and "4K 3840x2160" laptop displays are fak

Unsure why part of my post was removed, perhaps it was the linked image showing pictures of the displays, but Pentile displays do not truly achieve the resolution they advertise. Resolution, as the computer sees it, is a grid of independent fully-colorable pixels, whereas Pentile displays only "achieve" a given resolution on the outdated technicality of defining resolution by "contrasting line pairs".

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Registered: ‎02-25-2013

Re: PSA: Many of the "QHD+ 3200x1800" and "4K 3840x2160" laptop displays are fak

Another statistic that is greatly abuse and or mis understood are megapixels in cameras and resolution for printers.

 

Your links were probably removed because they were links to other web sites that are not best buy. I saw you had a link to Dropbox and for security purposes I am sure that is why it was removed. I would not even click on the link. I copied the link into Notepad to see where it went.

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