10-09-2014 03:57 PM
I have a 2012 Toyota Highlander wtih JBL audio, navigation, and keyless ignition. I would like to add remote start and be able to use the new fob for keyless entry, lock/unlock, and open/close the rear hatch. Is that possible without having to carry the OEM fob too?
10-10-2014 11:43 AM
well you have a couple of different options for sure. if you are looking at just getting a basic remote start/keyless entry, then you will not have to carry around your other key fob with it, because our remote start key fob will be able to do all the features your old one will, with lock, unlock, remote start, and trunk hatch pop. now the thing that i would be a little iffy about hooking up for you is the trunk release. does your back hatch open up all the way and close all the way when pressed again? the reason why i ask that is because alot of the back hatches on toyotas just pop that back glass and if you were to accidently hit that button and you cannot tell that it is open (like most toyotas with teh back hatch glass) then you are leaving your vehicle not only not secured but also opens yourself up to all the elements that your climate will bring in the place you live. i usually only will hook those up if the customer is really really wanting that, but i always let them know about that risk, but if your hatch opens and closes and you can physically see that it is open or closed then by all means hook it up!
so below you will have a break down of the different remote start systems, i wish i was able to give it in a little better of a format, but this is the best that i can do!
Materials charge: $5.00
Viper 4105VB: $199.99
hood tilt switch: $ 9.99
Module install: $39.99
Trunk release: $39.99
TOTAL: $407.94 BEFORE TAX
what this sytem above will offer you is a remote start keyless entry with trunk release. the range will be 1500 feet, with a 1 way communication. when you click the button you will have to see your vehicle and look to see if the parking lights are running, if they are on then you will know that it is running. the hood tilt switch is a safety for mechanics, and yourself if you are ever working under the hood so that no one can start the car while you are working, or if you disconnect the battery, it will not try to start upon re connecting the battery. the additional relay is for your vehicle since it has 2 starter wires, and our remote start only has 1 output. the FLCAN/DBALL will simulate the chip in your key so that it will allow the vehicle to start remotely,expensive i know but necessary. the module installation is for the installation of the FLCAN/DBALL, and the trunk release labor is for, well trunk release haha!
you do have other options but this is the first one that will get you everything that you are looking for. if you want a little bit more range, and 2 way communication add on $100 dollars making $507.94 for 1 mile range, and 2 way communication! with the 2 way you are able to hear a confirmation on your keyfob letting you know through beeps and a melody that it is locked, unlocked, or remote started, or if you hit the trunk release button. at the end of your installation you will get a demonstration of how to use your remote start better than we do. again if you have any other questions feel free to let me know! hope this helps you out a little!
10-10-2014 12:24 PM
Thanks very much for the detailed explanation. Since I posted my question I actually went to 2 installers to get advice and prices, one being my local Best Buy. I asked if I could get a remote start installed and use the new fob for all other functions including lock/unlock, push start, rear hatch.
Installer #1..local shop that's been installing car stereos and security systems for 20 years. He said he could not install a system where I kept all functions and did not need the original fob. The only way would be to install a smart system controlled by my phone which would run $500-$600. Thanks but no.
Local Best Buy...gave me the exact quote as you, but said I would still need the orginal fob to operate the vehicle. The only minor difference is where you have the FLCAN/DBALL, he just listed FLCAN. Maybe just different terminology that means the same.
So I'm not sure if I want to go ahead. I really just want remote start added to my existing functions while using only 1 fob.
10-10-2014 12:47 PM
is your vehicle a push to start? meaing do you physically have to put a key in the ignition? if your vehicle is a push to start then yes, unfortunately you will have to carry that one around with another key fob, because your vehicle needs to see that key via a proximity sensor. without that your car will never know if you are close by or not by it at all. sorry i figured you had a standard key and lock and unlock on another fob.
10-10-2014 12:49 PM
yeah i just re-read your initial post and "keyless ignition" flew under the radar with my brain. unfortunately you will have to have 2 key fobs, or your can do a smart start like the one guy was saying so that you just use your phone, and then you have your keyfob for your standard operations, mostly just to keep your car running.
10-10-2014 01:16 PM
10-10-2014 04:48 PM
no actually your car would be able to be started without your fob in the vehicle, that is what the FLCAN/DBALL module will do for you. with your vehicle unfortunately there is not a secure take over, so what that means is upon opening your door your remote start will shut down, and then all you have to do is get into your warm vehicle and start it just like you regularly do now. another thing for your vehicles firmware for the module is that you need to have all doors closed, which im sure isn't a problem, IMHO that is kinda a no brainer about securing your vehicle lol. so to answer your question, you will be able to remote start your vehicle without the fob in there, but upon opening the door when you go out to the vehicle to go to your destination, right when you open your drivers door, the car will shut itself down, and then all you have to do is start it just like you always do now. hope this helps! great quesitons too!
10-10-2014 04:54 PM
your car would stay locked with the new remote start, so that is kinda a nice piece of mind since right now you have to leave your car unlocked when you are warming your vehicle, not to mention, no one will be able to hop in and drive off either with the remote starter installed, because once that door opens you car would shut itself down. should have specified that in my last post.
10-10-2014 05:15 PM
So the simple one-button remote start would probably suit me since I would still need the Toyota fob. Thanks so much for your help, you've probably saved me a lot of time and money.
10-10-2014 10:33 PM
yeah you can go with the single button remote start one, that one will give you a 1 way communication, but also will give you a 1500 feet of range. when you are considering the 1 way communication know that you will not be able to use the keyless entry option while your car is remote started. you can see this by turning your vehicle on and trying to use the keyless entry if your lock and unlock do not working while your car is running you will also run into that same situation while your car is remote started. there is a single unlock output that you can have the installer use from that remote starter, but the downfall is that it will only unlock and not lock, so if you were by your vehicle and you accidently pushed the button your car will be unlocked when you get out to it. this is very easily avoided if you just push the button 1 time to start it, then when you are literally right by your vehicle and ready to open the door handle, you will click the same button again, and viola you have your car door unlocked without having to shut down the remote start. it really isn't much of a hastle, but if you cannot see your vehicle and tell if it is running and you accidently click the button again, that will unlock it, but again, it is not a common thing to accidently hit that small of a remote fob, im just trying to give you the scenarios that i have seen over the last 8 years working on remote starts. best of luck again, and keep me posted on whatever you decided to go with. best buy also would be highly recommended going with because we have a lifetime warranty on all of our workmanship, so if for some reason you move out of the state you live in, or are traveling around and the remote start fails you, you are able to bring it to any best buy in the country (which there is alot of them) and you can get them to service that vehicle. Just hold onto all the invoice copies (yellow copy) at the end of the installation and enjoy the piece of mind of knowing that you purchased a product that can be looked at if you ever have a problem at mulitiple shops (best buys) within your areas. that is usually the biggest reason why i recommend using us, so that you don't have a single car shop and then get stuck with no warranty because that shop is only in that city/state.