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Registered: ‎09-27-2017

Factory unlocked iPhone X?

Hi. I'd like to know if a factory unlocked and/or a T-Mobile iPhone X would be available to pre-order at Best Buy.

Thanks!

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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

Hey okankaymak,

 

Thanks for reaching out on this, and the iPhone X looks like it's going to be a pretty nice phone. We will not be selling the T-Mobile iPhone X. At this time we have not announced if we will be offering a pre-order option for an unlocked iPhone X, and the best I can suggest is to keep checking back with us.

 

Thanks,

Allan|Senior Social Media Specialist | Best Buy® Corporate
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

Will Best Buy offer unlocked iPhone X for pre-sale?
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

 Isn't the Verizon iPhone X factory unlocked? I thought all Verizon phones are both CDMA & GSM so it will work on all carriers and Verizon does not carrier lock their phones.

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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

^That is correct.

 

However, it is worth mentioning that all phones sold outside of Apple Stores / Apple.com are subject to the US Reseller FLEX Policy. This means whatever SIM you initially insert, it will lock to. You will need to insert a Verizon SIM card in order for it to be fully unlocked, at least for the initial setup. Once it activates, you can insert whatever SIM you want. I am a T-Mobile customer who is doing this. Verizon SIM cards can be found online (I ordered mine from eBay) for cheap.

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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

Hi Alef. I have read you other posts regarding this matter and have some questions. First, I bought the iPhone X MQA92LL/A at full price on BB. I had pressed AT&T in the earlier screen, but there is no mention of AT&T on my final order. I absolutely want this phone to be unlocked for traveling all over the world and sticking in any prepaid SIM and will use my existing AT&T SIM in the States.
1.) Is Best Buy selling me (in this case) an iPhone with an AT&T SIM in it or SIM Free?
2.) Will it be a CDMA/GSM A1865 MQA92LL/A or is there the horrid possibility of an A1901 MQA92LL/A as mentioned on another web site (GSM only)?
3.) If I Buy a Verizon Nano SIM on Amazon for $7 and place it into the phone before any other SIM, won’t I be required to provide Verizon Account information (which I have never had) BEFORE it gets activated? This the question that has me most perplexed. I cannot find any modern YouTube videos showing this process.
4.) You insist that these phones fall under the Reseller FLEX Policy, but wouldn’t these part numbers suggest the REAL Apple SIM Free version?
5.) Can AT&T see that this phone is paid in full and not lock it with activation automatically or make unlocking it quick and hassle free?

Sorry for so many questions, but I worry too much!
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

@Bfarrar2002

1. Best Buy is selling the SIM Free model which has the Qualcomm modem which supports CDMA+GSM. The option you chose before checkout is not relevant as made evident by the fact that your order page does not even show the specific carrier.

2. It must be the CDMA+GSM A1865 model with the Qualcomm modem (theoretically faster and better connectivity than Intel GSM only model). The logic behind this is the fact that since Best Buy only has a single version of the iPhone at launch, it must be the version capable of supporting either CDMA or GSM, and only one model does that. If they were to deliver or hand you (at the store) the A1901 version and you were a Sprint or Verizon customer, the phone would simply fail to activate.

3. From what I have understood after extensive reading and discussing with a forum member on MacRumors (a popular Apple fan website), you may insert any Verizon SIM card for initial activation, even one that is not tied to an active account. This is because you are given the option to activate over Wi-Fi. The phone needs a SIM card inserted in order to do this. Afterwards, the phone will be fully unlocked and capable of being used on any CDMA or GSM network. If you fail to do this and insert your AT&T SIM for initial activation, the phone will lock to that carrier’s unlock policy, in which you will have to call them in order to unlock it. The Verizon method simply bypasses all this headache since their phones are unlocked from the beginning. This is the method I will be doing. I found a Verizon SIM being sold by a reputable seller on eBay for $1.99 + free speedy shipping (ordered last Wednesday night and it arrived Saturday afternoon) via USPS.

4. I do not know how the retailer versions of the iPhone are differentiated with Apple’s own stock. Indeed, they are one and the same in part numbers, and since it is the A1865 version it is indeed the SIM free version of the iPhone X. All I know is that retailers are considered resellers since the primary seller is Apple, therefore the policy applies to them and the phone will not work outside the United States unless first activated with a US carrier.

5. That is a question only AT&T can answer. I’m a T-Mobile customer so I’m not sure of other carriers’ policies.

Hope I could help. Sorry I couldn’t answer some of the finer points of your questions. If I come across anything, I’ll be sure to post it here.
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

@Alef_Meem
Thank you for the great information. I haven’t figured out the Kudo thing yet, but I will.
On question 3: I just need a little more clarification. This may sound stupid, but when you say a Verizon SIM that is even not tied to an Active account, this includes brand new SIM cards that have NEVER been tied to ANY account, right? I ask because maybe you bought one that was tied to an inactive account. Just checking :-). And I must do this while connected to WiFi.

Does it make any sense to turn the phone on without a SIM to establish the WiFi first? What about the steps to download the latest IOS version? Should I do that right when I install the Verizon SIM? Will we get the nice message at the end congratulating us that our iPhone is unlocked?
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

@Bfarrar2002

You are very welcome.

I believe any SIM will work as long as it’s not blacklisted or blocked or anything of that nature. Activating by Wi-Fi is done since the SIM may be inactive thus there will be no cellular connectivity.

I wouldn’t boot up the phone until inserting the Verizon SIM, going through the initial iOS setup all the way until reaching the home screen. After you are safely at the home screen and able to use your new phone, I would then take out the Verizon SIM and insert my own, and continue with restoring from old backup, updating iOS, etc. I’m not sure about any messages. I’ve never seen anything like that.
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Re: Factory unlocked iPhone X?

I have a second Best Buy iPhone that I also bought at full price. Will the same Verizon SIM work its magic on that one too? Do you think this trick will also work on contract phones sold at Best Buy (just wondering for others reading this).