Add Product

Search Results:

Reply
New Member
lndsymccrthy
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎06-10-2010

Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

[ Edited ]

I am posting this letter sent to corporate via any medium available. Also posting on facebook and twitter. word of mouth is huge, and I have a big one.

 

 

 

I am writing in regard to unpleasant customer service experiences had at store 232 on East Washington Street in Indianapolis, Indiana. The whole issue revolves around the replacement of an Apple IPOD, covered under the Performance Service Plan for CPU & Wireless products.

 

Obviously, my white IPOD was broken. It was brought to the store on 5/17/2010. Upon inspection of my clearly broken IPOD, I was told by management staff to go pick a new replacement IPOD in store. I did as instructed and returned to the customer service area where I was met by yet another manager who informed me that no, they would not swap it out, and no I wouldn’t get it fixed today. Infact, they would send it to their Service center so that it could be repaired. I agreed and the item was sent out.

 

About two days later I received a call that my item had arrived at the store. Upon arrival I immediately noticed the box said “Refreshed by Best Buy” and noted the item color was black. I understand that the replacement items, per the service plan, are allowed to be refurbished. The problem at this point was that I had a white Apple IPOD, and now I have a black one. I compared the experience to buying a black car, and getting a green one as a replacement. If I wanted a green car, I would have bought a green car in the first place. So Jill, who is apparently the only management staff EVER at Best Buy, reluctantly sent the IPOD back to the Service Center to be replaced with a white unit.

This time the IPOD was sent directly to my home. I opened this package, as I assumed that the Service Agreement had been fulfilled. After I’d opened the black box my “newly” refurbished IPOD was contained in, I noted that the “IPOD” had no Apple logos to be found. Now my $350 dollar “IPOD” is a generic MP3 player. I’m sure you can understand that in buying an Apple product, you are paying big money for that brand name.

So, I called store 232 and asked to speak with Jill. She had just walked in and apparently was headed to a meeting. So I left my name and phone number for her to give me a call back. This was at 10AM. By 4PM, I’d still not received a call from Jill or anyone from the store. So, I called back assuming that her meeting was over, only to find that Jill was on lunch. Awesome. So I waited around for her call, which came at around 5:30PM.

Jill informed me that not only had the service plan had been fulfilled, but that she would no longer speak to me about his particular matter. In fact, she would only speak with my father, who’s name the service plan is in. Apparently, Jill forgot that Service Plans are transferable, so I had my father sign it over to me. I found this pretty hilarious, as I’ve been dealing with her for the last 3 week and suddenly I’m no longer the customer. For all she knew, I used daddy’s card to purchase my IPOD & I AM THE CUSTOMER. The way she treated me over the phone was absolutely inexcusable and if this is a reflection of Best Buy’s customer service standards, then I will be glad to get this issue resolved and never return to Best Buy again.

Then, I went in store to give Best Buy store 232 one last chance to make this situation right. I waited for about 15 minutes at the customer service area for Jill to stroll over. Immediately, she has a bad attitude. I brought Apple’s Warranty with me to show her the contents, as she apparently was not familiar. The PSP states “The Plan is inclusive of the manufacturer’s warranty; it does not replace the manufacturer’s warranty, but provides certain additional benefits during the term of the manufacturer’s warranty. After the manufacturer’s warranty expires, this Plan continues to provide the manufacturer’s benefits as well as certain additional benefits..” At this point, I haven’t seen the PSP even meeting the manufacturer’s coverage, let alone “adding certain additional benefits.” Apple’s warranty states that the ”Warranty applies only for the hardware product manufactured by or for Apple that can be identified by the “Apple” trademark, tradename, or logo annexed next to it” ( this warranty information can be found on Apple’s website.)

All Jill could say was that “the service plan had been fulfilled” and that according to her & the GM, there was nothing left to talk about. I literally had to say “Are you going to let me explain why I am here?” I have always kept my cool and kept my mouth shut and even let her be rude to me, but at this point I have had enough.

 

Firstly, a manager should never escalate the situation by being rude. In all my recollection, I have never had another staff member at Best Buy treat me poorly. Jill is the exception to the rule. Not only would she not help me, but she refused to direct me to someone who could. When I asked for the name of the district manager, she told me to call 1-888-BEST-BUY. I did, and was informed that they didn’t have that information.  As a member of Best Buy’s management team, it is her job to uphold the highest customer service, and I would assume to achieve some customer satisfaction. She has done neither.

Later, I was in contact with a “Corporate supervisor” who I reached through the ever so helpful 1-800-BEST-BUY. Donner, who assigned me a case number, {removed per forum guidelines} seemed willing to help, but was unable to make the individual store “take a loss” by replacing or refunding my purchase. He got in contact with the store manager, who was told to call me that day. Of course, he didn’t. So I called corporate back, and was met by yet another corporate supervisor. This person ever so politely told me that I should “write the CEO or get a lawyer.” Thanks AGAIN Best Buy for yet another example of your extremely effective customer service.

I also filed a complaint with the BBB, case number 57178072.

 

Who do I need to contact to get good customer service? Fry’s? Office Max? Office Depot?  HH Greg? Staples? Target? There are countless retailers who would gladly take my business AND treat me well.

I would like to be contacted by someone who has the capability to take care of this issue in a professional manner.

Please use plain text.
Community Veteran
Posts: 13,698
Registered: ‎04-13-2009

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

Often, the refurbishing process involves a heavy buffing of the exterior to remove scratches, which can remove the silkscreened logo. Rest assured, it is still an apple product. You can always go into the settings menu to check the S/N.

Please use plain text.
New Member
sjpagano
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎06-11-2010

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

BS.

 

I had the same problem with my iPod.  It was replaced with a generic iPod case.  It is not "buffing".  In addition, it had a preloaded song on it.

 

 

It's not the same thing, it's a cheaper plastic ,it feels different, the hold switch is missing the text, there is zero Apple branding on it.  It is sent to a refurb place where they remove the guts, replace what's broken, and install some generic cover.

 

Take any refurbished best buy iPod, place it next to a new one, and tap them with a pencil, they will resonate different sounds, they are different cases, and who knows what kind of internals.

Please use plain text.
Dorothy-BBY
Posts: 6,744
Topics: 106
Kudos: 313
Blog Posts: 8
Solutions: 278
Registered: ‎09-29-2008

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

Good afternoon lndsymccrthy -


Sarah, from our Community Connector team, will be reaching out to you regarding your concern.  Thank you for your patience!

Dorothy|Community Supervisor | Best Buy® Corporate
Please use plain text.
Community Veteran
Posts: 13,698
Registered: ‎04-13-2009

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan


sjpagano wrote:

BS.

 

I had the same problem with my iPod.  It was replaced with a generic iPod case.  It is not "buffing".  In addition, it had a preloaded song on it.

 

 

It's not the same thing, it's a cheaper plastic ,it feels different, the hold switch is missing the text, there is zero Apple branding on it.  It is sent to a refurb place where they remove the guts, replace what's broken, and install some generic cover.

 

Take any refurbished best buy iPod, place it next to a new one, and tap them with a pencil, they will resonate different sounds, they are different cases, and who knows what kind of internals.


All parts used are either apple-sourced or approved by apple.

Please use plain text.
Regular Member
Demfige
Posts: 39
Registered: ‎12-03-2009

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

Hi Indsymccrthy;

 

I would normally start out with apologizing, but I am assuming everyone you have spoken to has already done this on behalf of our company. Instead I would like to analyze what happened, and hopefully get us to a satisfactory conclusion.

 

First, I am going to have to assume that this unit was purchased over a year ago, as the Wireless PSP has not been offered since then so the specifics of this PSP come from what I remember, so I apologize in advance if anything is not 100% spot on. This PSP at that time did not cover physical damage to the iPod, as such your iPod must not have had physical damage if they accepted it for service. In this case your Service Plan would not be fulfilled by a simple Rapid Exchange. The only thing that would fulfill your Service Plan would be fraud or physical damage. To check up on the status of your Service Plan go to the following website: https://blacktie.geeksquad.com/

 

If your warranty is still active you may return to the store with a printout, or if you would be more comfortable heading over to another store if one is nearby, any BBY location would be able to Rapid Exchange your unit for the correct color.

 

Now the final issue is the fact that the back case no longer holds the applicable Apple logo and serial number. The reason for this is because your unit is a "Refreshed Unit." This is not the same as remanufacturered (parts changed), or refurbished. The reason that we do not repair iPods, iPhones, etc, is because the repair time for them gosfrom 4-8 weeks, which we as a company find completely unacceptable. So what happens instead is that they are cycled. Client A brings in iPod A to be repaired. Client A gets new iPod. Now Client B comes in for the repair, Client B gets Clients A's iPod. Client C comes in and gets Client B's iPod. So instead of having to wait 4-8 weeks it goes down to 2-7 days.  In some cases you may still decide to get your iPod repaired, however, in the aweful scenario that your newly arrived iPod isn't working properly it is still faster to swap it out again, then to wait for your initial 4-8 week repair.

 

What this means however, is that Best Buy assumes all responsibility for the maintenance of the product, and the product has to be clearly definable from an Apple product. For this reason, it looses its Apple logo and serial number. Not to forget, that we insure it looks new and shiny.

 

Let me know how this works out for you.

 

Sincerely,

Agent Lamar

========== If my post was helpful, please hit the Kudo button on the left hand side of my post. While i am an Best Buy/Geek Squad employee, my opinions are my own. Language is both mans greatest achievement and our biggest failures. Miscommunication is always my first assumption. ==========
Please use plain text.
Community Veteran
Posts: 13,698
Registered: ‎04-13-2009

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

Lamar, refreshed and refurbished are the same thing. "Refreshed" was just chosen as a euphemism.

 

Also, most refurbs come with the logo and S/N intact. The ones missing it are few and far between. It's not removed intentionally.

Please use plain text.
New Member
lndsymccrthy
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎06-10-2010

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

I appreciate all of the responses. Interestingly enough, I've had more feedback on the internet from people who are knowledgeable, than I did within the last 4 weeks dealing with actual Best Buy employees in store!!!

 

I'd like to reply to Lamar in specific. The color issue has been resolved. That only took Best Buy  3 fails (including the initial "Go pick a new one in store!!!" fiasco".) I did not open the "Refreshed by  Best Buy" box, because I know how they are with opened products. If I had opened it the first time, I'm quite certain that I would have noticed the lack of Apple branding on the first "Ipod" I received.

 

I also would like to point out that I am not a squirrel. Shinny things are nice, but I paid for the Apple logo. I want it. And Apple's warranty(Which best buy's PSP "covers", and in fact, "adds to") states that it will only work on the products and hardware with the Apple logo or trademark.

 

I don't expect Best Buy to solve this issue, primarily because I know from the way I was treated that I am not a valued client. I am actually more inclined to write Steve Jobs, the CEO of Apple, who has a much better reputation in this area, even though my product is out of Apple's warranty.

 

I also filed with the BBB, wrote corporate, & friended "Brian J. Dunn" on facebook (with the hopes that he may see my status), and sent my letter to all my e-mail contacts. If the issue is not resolved within 30 days of my submission of my complaint to the BBB, I will be filing in small claims court.

Please use plain text.
New Member
lndsymccrthy
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎06-10-2010

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

Also, Lamar...

 

You are the FIRST employee (I assume.) to even remotely attempt to "say sorry". When I state that I had TERRIBLE customer service, it is not because I am sensitive or just a complainer in general. The employees have not once said something like "You know, I'm really sorry we can't do more for you. I wish there was something I/we could do" It has always been a flat out refusal to help me and/or to direct me to someone who could.

Please use plain text.
Recognized Member
b12njoy2010
Posts: 136
Registered: ‎04-09-2010

Re: Not fulfilling Performance Service Plan

"Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse". - Robert Hare

Please use plain text.