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bertilak
Posts: 42
Registered: ‎03-27-2011

Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> . . .

I have a serious question I'd like to ask those of you posting to this board:

 

Despite the horrific experiences we all seem to have had related to non-existent customer service, false advertising, failure to honor basic policies (like the 'price-match' guarantee), why do any of us continue to shop at Best Buy?

 

I'm not going to shop at Best Buy again, ever.  There are just too many better alternatives to anything Best Buy carries that I could want to purchase.

 

Why are YOU still shopping at Best Buy?  I'd really like to know.  Thanks!

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SlimJim77
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Registered: ‎11-23-2008

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&gt

 


bertilak wrote:

I have a serious question I'd like to ask those of you posting to this board:

 

Despite the horrific experiences we all seem to have had related to non-existent customer service, false advertising, failure to honor basic policies (like the 'price-match' guarantee), why do any of us continue to shop at Best Buy?

 

I'm not going to shop at Best Buy again, ever.  There are just too many better alternatives to anything Best Buy carries that I could want to purchase.

 

Why are YOU still shopping at Best Buy?  I'd really like to know.  Thanks!


Dear sir or madam, this is not the place for commentary/rants on Best Buy. This section is to resolves issues. If you have an issue, post it, and it will be addressed. Otherwise, this is a total waste of time.

 

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CrimsonRain
Posts: 1,511
Registered: ‎12-21-2009

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&gt

You can literally substitute "Best Buy" with any other retailer or e-tailer and get the same results. It's just a case of "the grass is greener on the other side." People who have bad experiences with Best Buy would think that WMart or whatever is better and vice versa. Personally, I've had some good and bad experiences at just about everything B&M store from Best Buy to Nordstrom. The difference is that I understand when it's a failure as a company or a failure of the single employee.

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Mbrguy
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Registered: ‎07-04-2010

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&am

 


CrimsonRain wrote:

The difference is that I understand when it's a failure as a company or a failure of the single employee.


...or failure as a customer.

 

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Mbrguy
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Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&am

I'll clarify that a bit more.  Many issues we see on this forum are from a failure of some part on the customer.  Look at many of the "deferred interest" threads.  When someone signs up for a credit card, that person should always look at the terms and conditions.  And when someone buys a large item on a deferred interest promotion, and then doesn't pay off the amount by the time the promotion ends, who's to blame for the interest charge resulting in not paying off the item on time?  

 

Etc, etc.

 

That was just to clarify my prior post because a lot of the posts we see on these forums are due to a lack of taking responsibility for your actions (or inactions) and a willingness to blame another party for the mistakes of oneself.

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Mbrguy
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Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&am

...and a tripple post ftw.  sorry about the multi-posting.

 

Now, this is NOT to say that there aren't legitimate threads with legitimate issues because there are.  Best Buy is NOT perfect and the employees do make mistakes.  That is why these forums are here.  The Community Connectors work hard to address each and every issue and to make right those customers who were wronged by Best Buy.  

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bertilak
Posts: 42
Registered: ‎03-27-2011

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK>

First of all, this forum is *absolutely* the place to ask questions like the one I've asked.  If it isn't, then this forum has no reason to exist.

 

Secondly, for those of you who are Best Buy employees posing as 'helpful posters' here (and anyone with half a brain knows who you are), I'd like to clarify something for you before you respond to this post:

 

I run a very successful company of my own.  I certainly understand the need for certain types of policies related to, say, loss prevention.  I also would hate for my company to be judged by the occasional failings of one of my employees, and I certainly haven't done this with Best Buy.  Because of my own experience, I have more patience than most people when it comes to the failings of individual employees.  Indeed, I recognize that the vast majority of Best Buy's employees are underpaid and have no real authority to do anything other than ring up a sale. For years and years, I've encountered the occasional surley employee at Best Buy and elsewhere, and yet, I've continued to shop at Best Buy.

 

My problem comes whenever a corporation institutionalizes bad behavior - usually through its policies and practices.  Best Buy's behavior of late has suggested to me that this is exactly what has happened at Best Buy, particularly after the bankruptcy of Circuit City, its only major similar competitor.  I could cite personal experience after personal experience to suggest that the bad behavior of Best Buy's employees is now institutionally sanctioned, but I think the fact that Best Buy is regularly sued for misleading business practices - and that, to my knowledge, it has never successfully defended itself against such a suit - speaks to the 'corporate culture' that Best Buy has fostered under the leadership of its current CEO.

 

So, back to my original question:  If people are so frustrated with Best Buy, why do they shop there?  Why do we continue to patronize the shops of a corporation that has proven, over and over again, that it cares less about its customers than it does about its bottom line, all the while failing to recognize that its customers are the source of its bottom line.  I'm really interested to hear what other people have to say about this.  What is so remarkable about Best Buy that, despite the issues, the never-ending lawsuits, the bad customer service and other issues that so many have written about here, we all continue to shop there (myself included, until recently.)

 

If I were a member of Best Buy corporate, this is a thread I'd really want to read.  And I'd fire people I'd hired to help me moderate this board who didn't know that the word 'triple' is spelled with just one 'p.'

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Mbrguy
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Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&gt

 


bertilak wrote:

If people are so frustrated with Best Buy, why do they shop there?


 

The reason that people continue to shop at Best Buy is because incidents like we see on this forum or hear about on the internet are not the norm.  While a few people do have issues at some point, the vast majority of people do not have these problems that you are seeing and they are able to purchase their products and get the services they want/need for a competitive price, and they leave the store happy.  

 

That is why people continue to shop at Best Buy.  Because regardless of the few exceptions that we see on this forum, Best Buy takes care of it's customers for the most part and the customers continue to come back.

 

Best Buy has around 1200 stores in the U.S.  If only 500 people walked through those doors of each store a day, then that's about 600,000 people every day that walk through the doors of Best Buy.  With that many customers, there will be problems, it's a fact of life.  

 

Face it, if Best Buy really were as bad as you portray it, Best Buy would not be in business.

 

 

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bertilak
Posts: 42
Registered: ‎03-27-2011

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&am

MrBGuy -

 

You said:  "Face it, if Best Buy really were as bad as you portray it, Best Buy would not be in business."

 

Well, as I said in an earlier post, for years, Best Buy was great.  It's only recently that I've seen Best Buy really take a turn for the worse - exactly what happens when competition erodes and one retailer, like Best Buy, becomes responsible for fully 20% of sales in any particular type of industry.

 

But you seem to be forgetting that old business axiom:  for every one customer who voices a complaint, at least five customers have had the same issue, said nothing, and simply determined that they won't give their business to the relevant company again.  Case in point:

 

In Q4 2010, overall consumption in the US was $43 billion dollars, up an astonishing 11% over the previous year.  In the same period, at a time when consumers are buying holiday gifts (and spend more money on electronics than at any other time of the year), Best Buy's overall revenue per store fell 4.6%, per Best Buy's own press release announcing their Q4 2010 earnings (announced just two days ago.)

 

Now, call me crazy, but in Q4 2010, if overall sales are up by 11% nationwide, with electronics suppliers reporting record revenues (look, for example, at Apple - up $11 billion in net sales the same fiscal period), but Best Buy is posting losses of 4.6% - well, what that should tell any smart consumer, any investor, and any person 'moderating' this board (even if they're just a 'valued contributor') that things at Best Buy are just as bad as I've suggested they are, and that unless the company starts treating its customers like customers, Best Buy *will* be out of business just as soon as any other viable option presents itself to consumers living in cities where Best Buy has 'the lock' on electronics sales.

 

The math doesn't like, Mr. B.Guy.  If people were as happy with Best Buy as you seem to suggest, then the company should've posted record profits this year, along with every other major electronics retailer.  It didn't.  It posted a loss.  Care to explain that, absent the will of the 'silent majority' - the people who don't bother to post here but have had it with Best Buy's treatment of its customers?

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CrimsonRain
Posts: 1,511
Registered: ‎12-21-2009

Re: Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK> Thank you sir, may I have another? <SMACK&am


bertilak wrote:

 For years and years, I've encountered the occasional surley employee at Best Buy and elsewhere, and yet, I've continued to shop at Best Buy.

 


For years and years, I've had both good and bad food served to me from McDonalds from various locations, and yet, I've continued eating at McDonalds. Does that make me or loyal or stupid?

 


bertilak wrote:

My problem comes whenever a corporation institutionalizes bad behavior - usually through its policies and practices.  Best Buy's behavior of late has suggested to me that this is exactly what has happened at Best Buy, particularly after the bankruptcy of Circuit City, its only major similar competitor.  I could cite personal experience after personal experience to suggest that the bad behavior of Best Buy's employees is now institutionally sanctioned, but I think the fact that Best Buy is regularly sued for misleading business practices - and that, to my knowledge, it has never successfully defended itself against such a suit - speaks to the 'corporate culture' that Best Buy has fostered under the leadership of its current CEO.


Mmm, this is just so full of speculation but no solid facts that I'm going to leave it alone. Btw, if you think the lawsuits against Best Buy are bad, you should see the ones against WMart.

 


bertilak wrote:

So, back to my original question:  If people are so frustrated with Best Buy, why do they shop there?  Why do we continue to patronize the shops of a corporation that has proven, over and over again, that it cares less about its customers than it does about its bottom line, all the while failing to recognize that its customers are the source of its bottom line.  I'm really interested to hear what other people have to say about this.  What is so remarkable about Best Buy that, despite the issues, the never-ending lawsuits, the bad customer service and other issues that so many have written about here, we all continue to shop there (myself included, until recently.)


You'll have to poll the people shopping at a Best Buy near you to get a good sample. Fortunately for businesses, the unfortunate mishaps of a few customers do not represent the experiences of the masses.

 


bertilak wrote:

If I were a member of Best Buy corporate, this is a thread I'd really want to read.  And I'd fire people I'd hired to help me moderate this board who didn't know that the word 'triple' is spelled with just one 'p.'


Forum Guideline: Don't worry if your spelling isn't perfect. I type at a rate of 110-115 wpm. There's bound to be a few typos and mispellings in there. I'mm surre thiss iss thee casse withh otther posterrs herre.

 

 


bertilak wrote:

But you seem to be forgetting that old business axiom:  for every one customer who voices a complaint, at least five customers have had the same issue, said nothing, and simply determined that they won't give their business to the relevant company again.


 

You mean that axiom that the baby boomer generation came up with back in the days of mom n' pop shops and no big box retailers? There's another archaic one I love, "The customer is always right." Some of my friends tell me Fry's Electronics sucks but somehow I find myself wandering in there every now and then with a completely different experience than they had. It's one thing to hear the experiences of your peers, but it's just blind to take it as complete truth.

 

 


bertilak wrote:

 In Q4 2010, overall consumption in the US was $43 billion dollars, up an astonishing 11% over the previous year.  In the same period, at a time when consumers are buying holiday gifts (and spend more money on electronics than at any other time of the year), Best Buy's overall revenue per store fell 4.6%, per Best Buy's own press release announcing their Q4 2010 earnings (announced just two days ago.)

 

Now, call me crazy, but in Q4 2010, if overall sales are up by 11% nationwide, with electronics suppliers reporting record revenues (look, for example, at Apple - up $11 billion in net sales the same fiscal period), but Best Buy is posting losses of 4.6% - well, what that should tell any smart consumer, any investor, and any person 'moderating' this board (even if they're just a 'valued contributor') that things at Best Buy are just as bad as I've suggested they are, and that unless the company starts treating its customers like customers, Best Buy *will* be out of business just as soon as any other viable option presents itself to consumers living in cities where Best Buy has 'the lock' on electronics sales.

 

The math doesn't like, Mr. B.Guy.  If people were as happy with Best Buy as you seem to suggest, then the company should've posted record profits this year, along with every other major electronics retailer.  It didn't.  It posted a loss.  Care to explain that, absent the will of the 'silent majority' - the people who don't bother to post here but have had it with Best Buy's treatment of its customers?


 

You left out some key parts of those articles. For one thing, it wasn't good or bad customer service that affected Best Buy's losses. It was their push towards IPTVs and 3DTVs. The consumer market simply wasn't looking for that type of technology (not yet anyway). If anything, 2010 was the year of the iPad (hence Apple's gains) and cell phones. Best Buy miscalculated and they paid for it. Now, they are pushing more into the lucrative mobile phones sector. Did you by chance read your article on The Onion? If not, I'd like to see what article you read that tied Best Buy's Q4 losses to "bad customer service." So here's my proof. And another. And one last one. Something about a lot of budget-conscious buyers and new flashy TVs but nothing about losses incurred due to bad customer service.

 

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